SaaStr 818: Anthropic, Cursor, Fal & Bessemer: The Realities...
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SaaStr 818: Anthropic, Cursor, Fal & Bessemer: The Realities of Scaling AI
Summary
This episode discusses the evolving metrics and go-to-market strategies for AI companies, highlighting that while growth is rapid, traditional SaaS metrics like high gross margins are challenged by the inherent costs of AI inference.
Key takeaways include the need for flexible pricing models, the difficulty in setting sales quotas due to unpredictable AI advancements, and the importance of focusing on product quality and user experience over traditional metrics.
Key Points
- Traditional SaaS metrics like gross margin are no longer directly applicable to AI companies due to the significant per-user inference costs, leading to lower gross margins despite rapid growth.
- The rapid pace of AI development means that sales forecasting and quota setting are extremely difficult, prompting companies to explore alternative compensation structures like "shadow targets" or on-target earnings.
- The cost to serve AI models, particularly for newer, more demanding models like video generation, can outweigh the cost reductions from hardware advancements, leading to higher overall inference expenses.
- AI tools are dramatically increasing developer productivity, leading to a re-evaluation of what value means and how pricing should be structured, with many developers achieving 2x or more productivity gains.
- Companies are experimenting with different pricing models, including value-based and usage-based pricing, to better align costs with the value delivered and the high cost of AI inference.
- Building effective go-to-market teams in AI requires a focus on understanding the product's technical aspects and the evolving needs of developers, with innovative hiring strategies like research grants proving successful.
- Despite potential competition, there's a symbiotic relationship between AI model providers like Anthropic and application-layer companies like Cursor, where feedback and collaboration are crucial for model improvement and user adoption.
- The core focus for successful AI companies remains on building products they genuinely want to use themselves, believing that product quality and user experience will ultimately drive revenue and adoption.
- For AI companies, key metrics are shifting towards customer retention, diversified revenue streams from a broad customer base rather than a few large accounts, and ensuring they capture a larger share of their customers' generative media spend.
Conclusion
The AI landscape is fundamentally different from traditional SaaS, necessitating a re-evaluation of business metrics, pricing strategies, and go-to-market approaches.
Companies are finding success by focusing on product-market fit, developer productivity, and building tools they themselves find valuable, rather than adhering to outdated VC frameworks.
Collaboration, customer feedback, and a deep understanding of AI's unique cost structures are crucial for navigating the rapid evolution of the AI industry.
Discussion Topics
- How can AI companies effectively measure and communicate value when traditional SaaS metrics are no longer a reliable indicator of success?
- What are the most innovative approaches to sales compensation and go-to-market strategies in an era of rapidly evolving AI technology?
- Beyond productivity gains, how should the inherent costs of AI inference be factored into pricing models to ensure sustainable business growth?
Key Terms
- SaaS
- Software as a Service - A software distribution model where a third-party provider hosts applications and makes them available to customers over the internet.
- AI
- Artificial Intelligence - The simulation of human intelligence processes by machines, especially computer systems.
- Gross Margin
- The profit a company makes after deducting the costs associated with making and selling its products, or the costs associated with providing its services.
- Inference
- In AI, the process of using a trained model to make predictions on new data.
- GPU
- Graphics Processing Unit - A specialized electronic circuit designed to rapidly manipulate and alter memory to accelerate the creation of images in a frame buffer intended for output to a display device. In AI, GPUs are critical for training and running models.
- COGS
- Cost of Goods Sold - The direct costs attributable to the production or acquisition of the goods sold by a company.
- CAC
- Customer Acquisition Cost - The expense required to acquire a new customer.
- LLM
- Large Language Model - A type of AI algorithm that uses deep learning techniques and massive data sets to understand, generate, and manipulate human language.
- OTE
- On-Target Earnings - The total compensation a salesperson expects to receive if they meet or exceed their sales quota.
- AGI
- Artificial General Intelligence - A hypothetical type of artificial intelligence that possesses the ability to understand or learn any intellectual task that a human being can.
Timeline
Gorkum states that traditional VC metrics and SaaS metrics are broken for AI businesses due to their different operational models and rapid growth.
The cost to serve AI models is significantly higher than traditional SaaS, impacting gross margins, though models might become cheaper and workflows stickier over time.
The cost to serve each customer in AI is not negligible, creating a dynamic where heavy users can be costly, leading to experimentation with value and usage-based pricing.
Predicting future AI pricing is difficult due to rapid model advancements, and the cost of GPUs and electricity for inference remains high, emphasizing value delivery.
AI tools are already accelerating developers significantly, suggesting that pricing should be considered relative to a developer's salary and the productivity gains achieved.
Despite model efficiencies, the development of larger, more complex models increases overall inference costs, making advanced models more expensive to run.
COGS (Cost of Goods Sold) are becoming the new CAC (Customer Acquisition Cost) for AI, meaning lower margins require careful management of acquisition spending.
Anthropic's go-to-market team has scaled significantly, and traditional quotas are challenging to implement due to the unpredictable pace of AI adoption and model intelligence.
Cursor is also foregoing traditional quotas due to the rapid and unpredictable growth, opting for "on-target earnings" and considering shorter-term quotas like quarterly or monthly.
Cursor's sales team is highly technical, and they are leveraging AI tools to automate aspects of their go-to-market process.
Cursor utilizes a research grants program to identify and hire talent focused on efficient AI fine-tuning and inference.
The panel discusses the coolest use cases of AI within their companies, including AI-enabled sales tools and background agents for asynchronous task completion.
Anthropic uses an internal Slack channel with Claude to search knowledge bases and answer employee questions, significantly boosting productivity and onboarding.
Fal pivoted to focus on image and video generative media, differentiating themselves in a market where many AI models are treated as interchangeable.
Anthropic views partnerships with companies like Cursor as symbiotic, focused on driving model capabilities forward and building products that developers want to use alongside each other.
The core missions of Anthropic (aligned AGI) and Cursor (useful tools for developers) create a natural synergy, with Cursor benefiting from Anthropic's model improvements.
The significant productivity gains from AI tools like Cursor (2x or more) lead to questions about how this translates into product development or headcount reduction.
AI tools enable both new coders to create products and experienced developers to accelerate their work, serving diverse user demographics.
Key metrics for AI companies are shifting towards customer retention, diversified revenue, and increasing wallet share within customers' generative media spend, rather than just large logo acquisition.
Cursor prioritizes building a product they personally want to use, viewing revenue and user numbers as lagging indicators of fundamental product quality.
Episode Details
- Podcast
- The Official SaaStr Podcast
- Episode
- SaaStr 818: Anthropic, Cursor, Fal & Bessemer: The Realities of Scaling AI
- Official Link
- https://www.saastr.com/
- Published
- September 5, 2025