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SaaStr 828: The AI Revolution in B2B: Insights from SaaStr CEO Jason Lemkin and SaaStr Chief AI Officer Amelia Lerutte, and Qualified's CEO and Founder Kraig Swensrud

Summary

This episode explores the transformative impact of AI agents on B2B sales and operations, emphasizing the need for hands-on adoption over theoretical learning.

Hosts and guests discuss practical strategies for integrating AI, the shift in software consumption, and the urgent call for GTM leaders to embrace this technology or risk falling behind.

Key Points

  • The primary advice for individuals and companies to "do AI" rather than just "learn AI" is crucial for staying relevant and leveraging its capabilities, as simply subscribing to a service doesn't equate to understanding or utilizing it effectively.
  • Hands-on deployment and training of AI agents, even simple ones, provides a significant advantage, as it builds practical understanding and confidence, positioning users ahead of the vast majority who are not actively engaging with the technology.
  • The traditional model of buying enterprise software with long deployment times is obsolete; AI demands rapid time-to-value, necessitating direct user involvement in deployment and training, a stark contrast to past practices where third-party consultants managed implementations over extended periods.
  • The market is in flux with many AI vendors emerging, but rather than waiting for a dominant "IBM" of AI, companies should pick a leader and invest time in training it, as this hands-on approach is key to unlocking AI's potential.
  • Incremental budget is now almost exclusively allocated to AI, with traditional SaaS budgets frozen or facing cuts, making AI adoption not just a strategic choice but a necessity for survival and growth in the current business climate.
  • SaaStr's journey from zero agents to 20, including a horizontal "Jason AI" and then verticalized agents, demonstrates a practical, stair-stepped approach to AI integration, starting broad and then specializing.
  • The "layup" roles for AI adoption are in areas like customer support and programming, where existing inefficiencies are glaring and AI can provide immediate, impactful improvements, serving as a low-risk entry point.
  • For go-to-market teams, AI agents are transforming roles by automating routine tasks and providing intelligent insights, allowing human counterparts to focus on higher-value activities and strategic initiatives.
  • The old adage of "no one got fired for buying IBM" is replaced by the imperative to embrace AI, as companies failing to implement disruptive AI agents by Halloween (of the current year) risk significant competitive disadvantage and potential obsolescence.
  • The transition from human-centric sales and support to AI-driven processes is inevitable; while some may resist, those who adapt will find greater productivity and achieve higher quotas, with AI agents offering a significant compounding advantage.
  • SaaS is not dead but is undergoing a radical transformation driven by AI, which is injecting new budget and innovation into business software, but only for companies that strategically integrate AI into their offerings and operations.
  • The urgency to adopt AI is high, especially for startups, with a deadline of Halloween for having disruptive AI agents in production to avoid being out-competed; those who delay risk losing market relevance entirely.
  • Businesses need to move beyond theoretical understanding of AI and engage in practical deployment, training, and experimentation to gain a competitive edge and drive growth in the rapidly evolving AI landscape.

Conclusion

The core message is to "do AI," not just learn it, by actively deploying and training agents, as this hands-on approach is the only way to truly leverage its power and stay competitive.

Companies and individuals must embrace AI adoption strategically, starting with simpler use cases and stair-stepping their way to more complex integrations to build confidence and achieve tangible results.

The AI revolution is not a future event but a present reality, and those who fail to integrate AI agents into their operations by the end of 2025 risk becoming obsolete.

Discussion Topics

  • What are your initial steps or current strategies for integrating AI agents into your go-to-market operations?
  • How are you seeing AI agents impact your sales team's productivity and the overall customer experience?
  • Beyond specific tools, what are the biggest challenges and opportunities you anticipate with the widespread adoption of AI in B2B?

Key Terms

Agent
In AI, an agent is a software program that can perceive its environment, make decisions, and take actions to achieve specific goals, often autonomously.
LLM (Large Language Model)
A type of artificial intelligence algorithm that uses deep learning techniques and massive amounts of data to understand, generate, and manipulate human language.
CRO (Chief Revenue Officer)
An executive responsible for all revenue-generating activities within a company, including sales, marketing, and customer success.
SaaS (Software as a Service)
A software distribution model in which a third-party provider hosts applications and makes them available to customers over the Internet.
SMB (Small and Medium-sized Business)
Businesses with a certain number of employees and annual revenue, typically falling between small businesses and large enterprises.

Timeline

00:00:35:400

The importance of doing AI rather than just learning it, and how to approach it practically by deploying and training simple agents.

00:04:49:880

The shift in software consumption towards direct deployment and training of AI agents, contrasting with the old model of enterprise software implementation.

00:06:04:040

The current market state where leaders are emerging but it's still early, and the influx of companies seeking AI vendors due to AI budget.

00:09:29:896

SaaStr's internal AI journey, starting with a horizontal agent (Delphi) and evolving to 12 verticalized agents, highlighting a phased approach to AI adoption.

00:13:59:672

The concept of "stair-stepping" AI adoption, starting with a generalist agent for quick wins and building confidence before moving to more specialized, complex agents.

00:22:37:328

Defining "layup roles" for AI adoption, focusing on areas where work is not being done and AI can provide an immediate solution, such as customer support and engineering.

00:25:37:128

The common failure of CMOs in adopting AI by seeking a "hero purchase" rather than focusing on areas where AI can solve existing, unmet needs, leading to probable failure.

00:27:21:687

The transformation of the SaaS industry due to AI, which is driving new budgets and innovation, while traditional budgets are frozen and companies are cutting existing SaaS apps.

00:30:30:072

The urgency for companies to adopt AI, with a deadline of Halloween for startups to have disruptive AI agents in production, or risk losing competitiveness.

00:35:00:176

The evolution of AI agents from simple Q&A to co-pilots and sales tools, and how this is impacting event promotion and customer interaction.

00:40:39:999

The critical advice for go-to-market professionals: hands-on deployment and training of AI agents are essential for career survival and relevance.

00:42:24:040

The founder's perspective on rolling out AI to sales teams, acknowledging that some may resist or leave, but emphasizing that the company's future growth with AI must be prioritized.

Episode Details

Podcast
The Official SaaStr Podcast
Episode
SaaStr 828: The AI Revolution in B2B: Insights from SaaStr CEO Jason Lemkin and SaaStr Chief AI Officer Amelia Lerutte, and Qualified's CEO and Founder Kraig Swensrud
Published
November 5, 2025