20VC: 50% of Funds Will Go Out of Business | Why Growth Expectations...
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20VC: 50% of Funds Will Go Out of Business | Why Growth Expectations Today are BS and Will Not Last | Why Oren Zeev Takes $0 Management Fees But 30% Carry | Why GPs Should Not Tell LPs Their Strategy
Summary
Oren Zeev, a prominent solo capitalist, discusses his investment philosophy with Harry Stebbings, emphasizing authenticity, contrarian thinking, and avoiding crowded markets. He addresses the evolving landscape of venture capital, the impact of AI, and the importance of sustainable growth over pure topline numbers, while also detailing his unique fee structure and alignment with LPs.
Key Points
- Great investment outcomes often arise from contrarian thinking, where ideas appear "weird or wrong" to the market, offering a competitive moat.
- The increasing level of competition in every sector necessitates avoiding crowded spaces to become a market leader.
- AI is fundamentally changing industries, creating opportunities and challenges; companies must be beneficiaries or adaptable to survive.
- SaaS multiples have decreased due to justifiable fears of AI disruption, but not all incumbents are equally vulnerable; operational complexity and distribution matter.
- Focusing solely on growth without considering sustainability and healthy economics can lead to unsustainable practices and eventual implosion.
- In venture capital, investing based on conviction rather than market sentiment or social proof is crucial, as one large win can outweigh multiple smaller losses.
- GPs should not be afraid to pivot their strategy when new information arises, as being a "self-validation machine" hinders good decision-making.
- Concentrated bets on conviction opportunities are preferred over broad diversification, as a single outlier success can significantly impact fund returns.
- The venture capital landscape is bifurcating into large platform funds and specialized boutique firms, with the middle ground facing increasing difficulty.
- A significant percentage of venture funds may struggle to raise future capital due to a shift in LP focus towards proven platforms and verifiable DPI (Distributions to Paid-In Capital).
- True alignment between GPs and LPs is achieved through radical transparency and shared incentives, exemplified by Zeev's zero management fee and reinvestment strategy.
- The current market, while presenting challenges in liquidity and valuation, is also an exciting time for investors due to transformative AI advancements.
- The most memorable founder meetings involve genuine passion, demonstrated resilience in addressing concerns, and a clear vision for the business.
Conclusion
Venture capital faces a significant consolidation, with many funds likely to fail unless they offer unique value propositions.
True alignment between General Partners (GPs) and Limited Partners (LPs) is paramount, often achieved through radical transparency and shared financial incentives.
The ongoing AI revolution presents unprecedented opportunities for innovation and value creation, making it a pivotal time for investors.
Discussion Topics
- How can emerging fund managers differentiate themselves in an increasingly bifurcated venture capital landscape?
- What are the ethical considerations for GPs when their personal incentives might diverge from the long-term best interests of their LPs?
- With AI's transformative potential, what are the most significant new business models or market opportunities you foresee emerging in the next 3-5 years?
Key Terms
- AUM
- Assets Under Management, the total market value of investments that a person or entity manages on behalf of clients.
- Carry
- Short for carried interest, it's a share of the profits that the general partners of a private equity or hedge fund receive from their investments.
- Contrarian
- An investor who goes against prevailing market trends, believing that the majority is often wrong.
- DPI
- Distributions to Paid-In Capital, a key metric for LPs to assess a fund's performance, showing how much cash has been returned to investors relative to their committed capital.
- GP
- General Partner, the firm or individual managing a private equity fund, making investment decisions and holding ultimate responsibility.
- Incumbents
- Established companies in a particular market or industry.
- LP
- Limited Partner, an investor who contributes capital to a fund but does not participate in day-to-day operations or decision-making.
- Meritocracy
- A system where advancement is based on individual ability or achievement.
- Preemptive Rounds
- Fundraising rounds that occur before a company has necessarily reached traditional milestones or valuation metrics, often driven by market opportunity or competitive investor interest.
- SAFE
- Simple Agreement for Future Equity, a convertible security that allows investors to invest in a startup at an early stage without determining a valuation upfront.
- SaaS
- Software as a Service, a software licensing and delivery model where software is licensed on a subscription basis and is centrally hosted.
- Solo Capitalist
- An individual investor who manages their own fund or capital without a large traditional firm structure.
- TVPI
- Total Value to Paid-In Capital, a performance metric for private equity funds that measures the total value of investments (realized and unrealized) compared to the capital contributed by LPs.
- Unicorn
- A privately held startup company valued at over $1 billion.
Timeline
Why do so many of the best outcomes look wrong or weird at the time when we invest?
The challenge that we have today is the level of competition has changed so much.
Has what you look for changed in the last 24 months in the dawn of the wave of AI that we're looking at today?
Can you explain Navan as a beneficiary of AI?
What are your thoughts on the changing expectations on company growth rates and does that impact your investing?
The opportunity costs that large great funds have today when they're investing large amounts of money into the following rounds of our companies.
The notion that only growth matters is still a very dangerous one.
Which investor do you most respect and admire? Why then?
What are you most optimistic about?
The notion that only growth matters is still a very dangerous one.
We humans are not truth seekers.
So I tell LPs I only have one rule.
AI is the biggest change ever in this tree of humanity.
Why do so many of the best outcomes look wrong or weird at the time when we invest?
The challenge that we have today is the level of competition has changed so much.
Has what you look for changed in the last 24 months in the dawn of the wave of AI that we're looking at today?
Can you explain Navan as a beneficiary of AI?
What are your thoughts on the changing expectations on company growth rates and does that impact your investing?
The opportunity costs that large great funds have today when they're investing large amounts of money into the following rounds of our companies.
The notion that only growth matters is still a very dangerous one.
Do you worry ever that having a focus on margin and good economics too early hinders the upside opportunity for the companies that you're in?
My biggest mistakes have always been when I think that I'm smarter than the market.
Let me be blunt, Oran, you have massive balls.
LPs often like capital concentration limits for those of you who don't know.
And really, the thing is I don't believe in my ability or anyone else's to be honest, to time the market.
So when we look at that decision, I think managers are faced with the decision today.
Do you think a lot of funds will go out of business in the next few years be unable to raise and slowly die?
To inflight numbers versus be considered.
What do you think are the biggest misalignments between GP and LP today in venture?
We have 200X ARRs, 150X ARRs.
If they're being offered that.
Do you agree with that perspective that founder sentiment has changed towards investor advice?
How have your thoughts around ownership changed in my business they haven't?
Does having Sequoia on your cap table move the needle for a company, do you find?
Why do you not go back to it?
What do people not know or see about having money that they should know and see?
Are you concerned by the labor displacement theories of AI?
Which side are you on?
Which is the most memorable first founder meeting that you've had?
What's your biggest miss and how do you reflect on that?
By the way, by the way, it's easier when you write a small check because...
Which investor do you most respect and admire? Why then?
Tell me, final one, what are you most optimistic about?
Now, the fact that I'm bullish about personally, about my investments or about the potential investments or even about the VC industry in general, doesn't mean that I'm not worried about the political side of things with the political unrest because people get disenfranchised and things like that.
But before we leave you today as an investor I always on the lookout for tools that really transform how I work.
Episode Details
- Podcast
- The Twenty Minute VC (20VC)
- Episode
- 20VC: 50% of Funds Will Go Out of Business | Why Growth Expectations Today are BS and Will Not Last | Why Oren Zeev Takes $0 Management Fees But 30% Carry | Why GPs Should Not Tell LPs Their Strategy
- Official Link
- https://www.thetwentyminutevc.com/
- Published
- February 2, 2026