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Can Community Banks Survive the Next SVB? | ModernFi CEO Paolo Bertolotti and Former Comptroller Gene Ludwig

Summary

The episode discusses the vulnerability of community banks in the wake of the SVB crisis and how financial infrastructure like ModernFi's deposit network can help these institutions thrive.

It explores the historical fragmentation of the U.S. banking system as a strength, the role of community banks in economic dynamism, and the potential for a collaborative, bank-owned network to ensure stability and service.

Key Points

  • The SVB crisis, though peculiar as a "tail risk" event exacerbated by internet-driven speed, revealed an underlying vulnerability in the U.S. banking system's fragmentation and the lack of widespread use of existing solutions like deposit networks.
  • The U.S. banking system's unique, federated structure with numerous community and regional banks, unlike the oligopolies in other countries, is a historical advantage fostering innovation and local economic support, but requires modern infrastructure to remain competitive.
  • Gene Ludwig's founding of reciprocal deposit networks in 2003 was driven by the need to help small banks serve customers with large deposits and provide individuals with full deposit insurance, addressing both community needs and consumer safety.
  • ModernFi provides essential software infrastructure, including a core product that acts as a market for deposits, enabling institutions to grow and thrive by facilitating deposit exchange and offering access to greater deposit insurance through reciprocal arrangements.
  • The historical hesitance to fully adopt deposit network solutions stemmed from technology, economics, and alignment challenges, but the SVB crisis has created a "sea change," making these solutions a necessity for banks to retain customers and avoid issues like bank runs.
  • ModernFi's approach to credit unions, by building the first reciprocal network for them, enables these institutions to serve public funds, small businesses, and nonprofits, fulfilling their mission more effectively.
  • The development of "Endit," a bank-owned and managed consortium for deposit networks, aims to create a true utility service where banks benefit from oversight, ownership, and better economics, aligning incentives for widespread adoption.
  • The success of ModernFi and Endit is attributed to strong technology, effective management, and a deep understanding of customer needs, emphasizing a customer-centric approach vital for winning technology enterprises.

Conclusion

The fragmentation of the U.S. banking system, though presenting challenges, is a historical strength that can be leveraged with modern infrastructure like deposit networks to foster economic dynamism.

Solutions like ModernFi's deposit network and the bank-owned consortium "Endit" are crucial for community and regional banks to remain competitive, serve their customers effectively, and ensure systemic stability.

The SVB crisis served as a catalyst, shifting the perception of these infrastructure solutions from "nice to have" to a "must-have" for financial institutions to thrive in the evolving economic landscape.

Discussion Topics

  • How can community banks leverage technology to compete with larger financial institutions in the digital age?
  • What are the biggest challenges and opportunities in building collaborative financial infrastructure owned by the institutions it serves?
  • In what ways can the historical strengths of the U.S.'s fragmented banking system be preserved and enhanced through modern innovation?

Key Terms

Tail risk
An event that has a low probability of occurring but a high impact when it does occur.
Asset liability mismatch
A situation where a financial institution's assets and liabilities do not mature at the same time, potentially leading to liquidity issues.
Deposit network
A system that allows financial institutions to share deposit capacity and provide greater deposit insurance coverage to their customers.
Reciprocal deposit
A mechanism within a deposit network where one institution places deposits with another to increase deposit insurance coverage for their customers.
Financial market utility
An organization that provides critical infrastructure and services for financial markets, often owned or governed by the participants.
Cold start problem
The difficulty of starting a network effect-based business where there are initially few users or participants.
GSIBs (Globally Systemically Important Banks)
Banks considered so large and interconnected that their failure could trigger a global financial crisis.

Timeline

00:00:21

The SVB crisis revealed that while the bank was a member of deposit networks, it wasn't utilizing them, leaving 94% of its deposits uninsured and vulnerable to a run.

00:04:41

The U.S. banking system's high number of diverse institutions, unlike other countries, has historically supported local economies and innovation, but these institutions need modern infrastructure to compete.

00:19:30

Gene Ludwig's work in the early 2000s aimed to address the lack of lending in certain regions and the challenges faced by small banks and individuals in securing full deposit insurance, leading to the creation of reciprocal deposit networks.

00:13:16

ModernFi's mission is to help financial institutions grow by providing software infrastructure, with its core product being a deposit network that functions as a market for institutions to exchange deposits.

00:26:47

The underutilization of deposit network products by banks, despite their existence, is due to challenges in technology integration, economics, and alignment, which ModernFi aims to solve.

00:50:26

ModernFi's expansion to credit unions, building the first reciprocal network for them, allows these institutions to better serve their members by enabling them to handle public funds, small businesses, and nonprofits.

00:36:41

"Endit" is a bank-owned consortium designed to create a financial market utility for deposit networks, providing banks with oversight, ownership, better economics, and a say in the direction and management of the service.

00:40:30

The success of ModernFi and Endit is built on good technology, solid management, and a profound focus on customer value, making it a customer-centric operation.

Episode Details

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Can Community Banks Survive the Next SVB? | ModernFi CEO Paolo Bertolotti and Former Comptroller Gene Ludwig
Published
November 20, 2025