Is Non-Consensus Investing Overrated?
a16z PodcastFull Title
Is Non-Consensus Investing Overrated?
Summary
The podcast discusses whether non-consensus investing is overrated or the key to venture returns.
Hosts explore the dangers for founders of being too far outside market consensus and how market efficiency shapes venture outcomes.
Key Points
- It is dangerous to be too far outside of market consensus as an investor because dependence on follow-on capital makes it hard to keep a company alive if investors don't align.
- The market is generally efficient, and if a company is truly good, its valuation will reflect that, meaning deviating from consensus may mean missing something important.
- The debate over consensus investing is complicated by anecdotal evidence and the difficulty in precisely defining "consensus" in early-stage markets.
- Founders can face a dilemma: being non-consensus might be necessary for a disruptive product, but appearing consensus might be required to raise future funding.
- Consensual investing can be dangerous if it leads to a lack of diligence, with investors simply following popular trends without proper evaluation, leading to "indigestion" rather than "starvation" for companies.
- The efficiency of the market is debated, with some arguing that increased capital and investors lead to more efficient pricing, while others believe that "hot" deals are still underpriced relative to their ultimate potential.
- Companies that are non-consensus in their early stages may be more disciplined with capital due to the necessity of proving their model, whereas overly enthusiastic consensus can lead to rapid spending and potential failure.
- The increasing size of venture funds and the expansion of potential outcomes (e.g., trillion-dollar companies) influence investment strategies and the perception of what constitutes a "fair" price.
- A counter-argument suggests that being non-consensus can be beneficial for founders, leading to more frugal operations and a stronger focus on core business metrics due to less certainty in future funding.
- The definition of "non-consensus" can be fluid, with some arguing that companies led by experienced founders or in familiar sectors might appear non-consensus to outsiders but are, in fact, well-understood by informed investors.
- While consensus investing can lead to "hot" rounds that inflate valuations, a lack of consensus can mean a company's true potential is not yet recognized, creating opportunities for early investors.
- The venture market's increasing efficiency might mean that attractive pricing is less common, but the sheer growth of the market and the potential for massive outcomes still justify venture capital's focus on growth.
- The importance of unit economics is highlighted, particularly for deep tech and AI companies, where consensus can be driven by market hype rather than clear financial viability.
- The conversation touches on the idea that truly disruptive products are often non-consensus to consumers initially, but this is distinct from investor sentiment, which is seen as generally smarter than often assumed.
- The role of fund size and investment strategy (e.g., multi-stage vs. seed-focused) significantly impacts how VCs approach consensus and non-consensus opportunities.
Conclusion
Consensus and non-consensus investing each carry risks and potential rewards, and understanding market dynamics is crucial.
Founders face a delicate balance: being innovative enough to be non-consensus with customers while appearing consensus enough to secure funding.
The efficiency of the market is a key factor, with debates continuing on whether higher valuations accurately reflect true potential or lead to unsustainable bubbles.
Discussion Topics
- How can founders navigate the tension between being a non-consensus innovator and needing to present a consensus-friendly picture to investors?
- What are the long-term implications for market efficiency if the largest venture funds continue to grow and chase the same "hot" companies?
- Considering the cyclical nature of market sentiment, how can investors identify genuine opportunities in less-hyped sectors or technologies?
Key Terms
- Non-consensus investing
- An investment strategy where an investor takes a position that goes against the prevailing market sentiment or majority opinion.
- Market efficiency
- The degree to which market prices reflect all available, relevant information.
- Upround
- A subsequent funding round for a startup that occurs at a higher valuation than the previous round.
- Indigestion
- In a business context, this can refer to problems arising from too rapid growth, overspending, or taking on too much too soon.
- Starvation
- In a business context, this refers to a company failing due to a lack of resources, funding, or market demand.
- Alpha
- In finance, alpha is a measure of an investment's performance relative to a benchmark index. In venture capital, it refers to finding investments that outperform market expectations.
- VC
- Venture Capitalist, an investor who provides capital to firms exhibiting high growth potential in exchange for an equity stake.
- Series A/B/C
- Stages of venture capital financing, with Series A typically being the first significant round of external equity financing, followed by Series B, C, and so on, usually increasing in valuation and investment size.
- TAM
- Total Addressable Market, the total revenue opportunity available for a product or service.
- Unicorn
- A privately held startup company valued at more than $1 billion.
- ARR
- Annual Recurring Revenue, the predictable revenue a company expects to receive on a monthly or annual basis.
- LP
- Limited Partner, an investor who commits capital to a fund but does not participate in the day-to-day management of the fund.
Timeline
Founder's perspective on the danger of being non-consensus due to reliance on follow-on capital.
The belief that early markets are efficient and deviating from consensus may signal a missed opportunity.
Critiquing lists of non-consensus winners by arguing that many were not truly non-consensus or had difficult funding rounds for other reasons.
Discussion on measuring market efficiency and the correlation between previous "hot" rounds and subsequent ones.
The core question of whether it's easier to spot unrecognized companies or get into obvious good ones.
The risk for founders of being perceived as non-consensus and the resulting difficulty in raising subsequent funding.
The benefits of non-consensus investing for companies, such as increased frugality and resilience.
The danger of consensus investing when it leads to a lack of diligence and companies failing from "indigestion."
Acknowledging that both consensus (frothy markets) and non-consensus (pessimistic markets) have failure modes.
The argument that the market is becoming more efficient for non-consensus companies but less so for consensus ones.
Observing the current AI craze as an example of market exuberance with some companies struggling to raise despite the hype.
Personal anecdote about a startup experiencing a complete funding collapse after an initial "hot" round.
The transition from non-consensus to consensus rounds being critical for company success.
Questioning whether multi-stage firms have an advantage in seed rounds due to their ability to assess future consensus.
The counterbalancing effect of amazing growth and weaker moats in AI companies.
The idea that outcomes are becoming so large that current valuations might be considered too low.
The notion that more trillion-dollar companies will emerge, necessitating larger fund sizes and acceptance of higher valuations.
The question of why prices might be too low, potentially due to insufficient capital to match the opportunity set.
The VC identity being tied to being non-consensus and the potential for market efficiency to challenge this.
The argument that a purely consensus world makes investing solely about cost of capital, reducing excitement.
The negative impact of large companies protecting incumbency, stifling innovation.
The belief that truly disruptive products are often non-consensus to consumers initially.
The assertion that investor sentiment is smarter than often assumed, even if companies themselves are non-consensus.
The dynamics of aligned incentives between LPs, founders, and VCs, and how competition drives innovation.
Outline of upcoming data analysis on whether winners were priced above or below median and if returns come from high-priced companies.
Personal reflection that best investments were ones that took time to raise seed, while misses involved passing on deals at higher prices.
Acknowledging differing perspectives based on fund size and investment stage.
Examining whether multi-stage firms have dominated seed rounds and looking at future trends.
Observation that successful founders with prior exits or expertise in a sector may command higher seed valuations from multi-stage investors.
Episode Details
- Podcast
- a16z Podcast
- Episode
- Is Non-Consensus Investing Overrated?
- Official Link
- https://a16z.com/podcasts/a16z-podcast/
- Published
- September 4, 2025